Financial gurus Dave Ramsey and Suze Orman say you should only buy guaranteed level term insurance.
They say that permanent insurance policies like whole life insurance are a bad investment.
Why do they care about insurance? Because the money you don’t spend on the wrong insurance policy is money you can save and use elsewhere!
If you’re comparing term vs whole life insurance, this article will provide you with some helpful tips from Dave, Suze, and myself. There’s a rebellion against whole life insurance, and you should know all the facts before signing up for a permanent life insurance policy.
Let’s discuss the Dave Ramsey & Suze Orman life insurance view and why it may or may not be right for you.
In this article:
5 Reasons to Buy Term Life Insurance
Here are 5 reasons Dave Ramsey and Suze Orman will tell you to buy level term life insurance:
#1. Term Life Insurance is Cheaper than Permanent Insurance
Term life insurance is a lot less expensive to buy than a permanent policy. Typically only 5-10% of the cost of whole life.
Dave Ramsey says that if a 30 year old male had $100 per month to spend on life insurance, he could only afford to purchase a $125,000 whole life insurance policy.
That’s because it’s “permanent life insurance.”
What is permanent life insurance?
Permanent life insurance is designed to last to age 100 or longer, and typically includes a cash value component to it. This means if you cancel at some point, you may get cash back that’s building up in the policy whereas term doesn’t return your premium.
Why is this important?
The same $125,000 coverage on a term life insurance policy would only cost him about $7.00 per month. That’s a savings of $93.00 per month (or $1,116.00 annually) that he could invest or save.
#2. The Savings on a Term Policy Can be Invested
Both Dave Ramsey and Suze Orman say that the money you save on a term policy can be better invested elsewhere and earn you a higher rate of investment.
This is generally true. Most whole life policies won’t break even for the first 7 to 10 years.
Dave Ramsey says that the average rate of return on a whole life policy is just 2.6%. (On a universal life policy, the average rate of return is 4.2%, and on a variable life insurance policy, the average rate of return is 7.4%.)
On the other hand, according to the Consumer Federation of America, the average rate of return on the same mutual funds which you can invest in outside of a permanent policy is 12%.
So…Do you think you can outearn 2.6% in the stock market or in real estate?
Probably!
In fact, I recently asked 7 personal finance experts if they had already maxed out their 401k and IRA, and were being pitched whole life, what would be a better investment. Here were their answers.
Suze Orman was asked on her show by a 39 year old man who recently bought a 1 million whole life policy what he should do instead.
Like Dave Ramsey, Orman gets super upset and animated even at the question if you should buy term or whole life.
Suze argues:
- He should cancel the 1M whole life policy Jaimie bought for his wife
- Since it costs 10x as much as term, over 30 years, they could take the $900 savings and probably invest it to make $1 million in their own investments
#3. What Type of Life Insurance Do You Really Need? (Probably Not Whole Life)
Having spoken about the rate of return of the “investment” in whole life and universal life, you might be thinking that the “return” is not important to you because you need lifetime coverage.
Here’s what I say to that…
Very few people actually need permanent coverage.
If you are planning for the future prudently, paying down your debts and investing for the future, most Americans ages 20 to 50 won’t need coverage 20-30 years down the line.
Dave Ramsey argues:
- No one needs anything other than term
- If you’re paying off debt (including using a 15 year mortgage) and investing 15% of your income, you’ll have plenty of savings and have no mortgage when your term ends, so it’s ok when your term expires
I don’t 100% agree with Ramsey here, though, because not everyone invests 15% of their income or gets a 15 year mortgage.
In other words, Ramsey’s advice to buy term might be ok for his followers who live “the Ramsey way”, but what about for other people?
There are a few instances that warrant permanent coverage:
- Charitable giving
- Estate planning / estate liquidity
- To fund a life insurance trust
Even so, in these cases, we’d recommend you look into Guaranteed Universal Life, not regular universal life or whole life. Guaranteed Universal life offers permanent protection, but without all the cash build-up, so it runs half the cost or less of whole life.
#4. Permanent Life Insurance Policies Have High Up-Front Expenses
Both Dave Ramsey and Suze Orman also point that it takes several years before you even begin to reap any benefits from a permanent life insurance policy.
This is also true because the entire first year of premiums that you spend on a permanent policy goes to the insurance agent who sold you the policy as commission.
Good for the agent…bad for you!
According to Dave Ramsey, it can take up to another additional 2 years of premium payment to account for all the additional expenses.
#5. Permanent Insurance is Misleading
If Warren Buffett doesn’t invest in anything he doesn’t understand, you probably shouldn’t either.
One of the other irritants about permanent insurance according to both Dave Ramsey and Suze Orman is that the cash value accumulation feature is somewhat misleading.
If you buy a $250,000 permanent life insurance policy then that is what your beneficiaries would get when you die.
Some people are mistakenly under the impression that you get the face value of the policy PLUS the cash value accumulation feature.
This is not the case as both the death benefits and the cash value accumulation feature are joined together for a total of $250,000 and not a cent more.
With all the fees, loans, paid up additions, dividends that make up life insurance, it’s confusing.
Suze Orman speaks truth to a caller on her show whose insurance agent “friend” pitched him whole life.
Suze reveals just how much commission his “friend” stands to make off his policy purchase and what he should do with the money instead
One observation I’d like to add to Suze’s analysis (from a life insurance agent’s perspective) is that just because a broker stands to make a lot of money off a policy, that in and of itself doesn’t make whole life “bad.”
How to Save 30% or More on Term Life Insurance
Here are 2 of the best tips I’ve learned from selling life insurance over the past decade that many other agents don’t know.
Buy 2 Policies Instead of One, and Stagger the Term Lengths
Most agents will try to sell you one big policy with a long term length like 20 or 30 years.
But why pay for a full 20-30 years of coverage for the full amount if you don’t need it that long?
You can save 10-20% by buying 2 policies totaling the same amount of coverage, one with a shorter term and one with a longer term.
If you plan prudently for your future, you won’t need as much coverage in 10-15 years, so let the first policy drop off.
Take an Annuity Payout Over a Lump Sum Payout
You can specify with some carriers to pay the death benefit out over time instead of as a lump sum, and this can save you 10-30%.
For example, your beneficiary might be paid $50,000 per year over 10 years instead of $500,000.
Read all my best life insurance savings tips!
What’s the Difference Between Term & Whole Life Insurance?
Here are some of the key differences between term and whole life insurance policies.
The “Dave Ramsey Life Insurance Stance” is Very Bold
Here’s what Ramsey had to say when he’s asked by a fan about the difference and if whole life is worth it.
- “Term doesn’t have any gimmicks or bells or whistles that has an investment built into it.”
- “The lifetime ROI on whole life is around 1% like your stupid savings account at the bank. No one builds wealth at 1%.”
- “Whole life is the payday lander of the middle class.”
Does Suze Orman Agree?
Suze Orman is also of the opinion that permanent life insurance is way over priced when it comes to the actual value you receive for the money you invest in life insurance.
She also believes that it would be much more advantageous to invest the difference between what you would spend for term insurance versus what it cost to buy a permanent policy such as whole life or universal life.
Bottom Line: The “Suze Orman Life Insurance Stance” would be that everyone should buy term!
Whole vs Term Case Study: Is Whole Life Really a Bad Investment?
Take a 40 year old male in great health looking for $500,000 of coverage.
Here are his whole and term life quotes (annually):
As you can see, buying term life insurance saves him $7,397 per year.
Next, you can see that if you took that savings and invested it, earning 7.5% average return per year, you’ll make an extra $277,755 OVER and beyond what you’d have in your whole life policy cash value.
Note, this is only for illustrative purposes, and there are some nifty things you can do with your whole life policy during its life, like borrow from it, or use the dividends to pay your premiums, but you should still get the point.
Benefits of Permanent Life Insurance
Here are some benefits of permanent life insurance.
#1 – The Forced Savings Plan
Somehow, many of us find some other ways to spend the money we should have saved and invested.
If you have problems saving money, then a permanent policy might be ideal for you to save for the future.
#2 – Steady Growth w/ Minimum Interest Rate
Some people have very little savvy when it comes to investing money.
We always hear horror stories of how people have lost their entire life savings in a bad investment. And, we’ve also seen what happened recently with the real estate market. The stock market bounces up and down like a yo-yo.
Permanent insurance may not be the highest yielding investment, but it can provide steady growth and many policies offer a minimum guaranteed rate of return.
#3 – Possible Tax Free Access to Cash
The money you invest in permanent policy can often be retrieved non-taxable as policy loans. Your outside investments are often taxable and that is something both of these financial gurus often neglect to mention.
#4 – Life Insurance to Age 100 or More
The final advantage of a permanent policy is that it guarantees that you are insured for your entire lifetime as opposed to term insurance which covers you for the life of the term.
If your health has declined significantly by the time you go to renew, you could be declined coverage and where would that leave you?
3 Instances When Whole Life Insurance Makes Sense
There are a few situations when whole life insurance policies are worth it.
Estate planning / Asset Protection
There are instances when not only is permanent life insurance needed to fund an advanced estate planning strategy, but there may also be a need for liquid access to cash values, or the owner (usually wealthy) is enjoying an advanced asset protection strategy – which only works when cash value life insurance is in play.
Business Planning
Many businesses use cash value life insurance policies to fund executive compensation and deferred benefit plans, helping them retain key executives.
In this world, the “price” and “policy values” are less important and skewed since both the employer and executive may benefit partially from the policy. Furthermore, one of the most attractive reasons companies use them is because they’re easy to administer and avoid many of the ERISA complications and requirements of administering a qualified plan.
Pacific Life put out a great piece on why you should use whole life to fund company plans, which I’ll post below.
If an Accredited Investor Wants to Buy It
A few of the biggest concerns about whole life are that it’s confusing, the returns are low, and it’s overpriced.
But if an accredited investor (someone with > $1 million net worth and > $200,000 annual income) were to call us for whole life just looking for a safe place to grow their money conservatively, they’d be perfect for it.
They can afford the premiums and won’t let it lapse like so many do.
Universal Life Insurance vs. Term
Another type of insurance we mentioned earlier but didn’t discuss was universal life insurance.
Universal life (UL) has variants like variable universal life and indexed universal life, but works somewhat similarly to whole life.
In both cases they:
- may offer lifetime coverage (although in the case of whole life it’s guaranteed)
- both include a cash value account
- the cash value earns interest and grows
The big difference is in the flexibility and lack of guarantees in universal life.
In whole life, you have to pay your premiums on time every month or year, and you can’t miss or your policy will “borrow” the premiums against the cash value, which you pay INTEREST on.
In the case of universal life, the premiums are flexible and can be paid as the policyholder desires. As long as cash value is there to support the policy, it stays in good standing.
Learn more about UL vs whole life here: Universal Life Insurance: Insider’s Guide to Benefits, Pros & Cons
Dave Ramsey and Suze Orman prefer term vs universal life also! In their eyes, UL is just whole life’s evil sister.
Learn More About Term Policies Versus Permanent Insurance
If you’re comparing term vs whole life insurance, you’ll want to talk to an independent agent like myself. The “Dave Ramsey life insurance view” may or may not be right for you.
We can access and research dozens of life insurance companies so you are assured we will find the best policy at the most affordable rates. If you have health concerns, don’t let that dissuade you. We can give you valuable advice and help you to find a policy that suits you.
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I’ve recently learned of something called term-to-70 insurance. Is that really term? Or something in between term and whole life? How does it compare to term?
This is a great question. Yes some companies offer “term-to-age” type policies. It’s not really too different from level term. For example, if you’re 40 years old, you could qualify for a 30 year term, effectively giving you a term to age 70 policy. The difference is if you’re, say, 38 or 42. You can’t buy a 28 year or 32 year term, so you might get a term to 70 if that’s the SPECIFIC age you need coverage to end. I never understood the specific age cutoff, personally. I say you should always be working to increase your savings and investments, and decrease your debts, and if you’re doing so prudently, you’ll (hopefully) have no more need for life insurance at some point down the line, but it baffles me when someone can name a specific date when they’ll no longer need it. As for how it works, it’s just like level term. It should be a set premium until age 70 and as long as you pay it, the face value remains the same. Check with the company for specifics. We also have access to these if you’d like help. You can call us at 888-603-2876. Good luck.
I see you bash whole life for all the fees yet you don’t talk too much about all the fees with mutual funds. and the massive hidden fees in 401k plans. $3 trillion a year 401K industry with $30 billion in fees. who pays for those?? no one talks about that. along with 100% of all money taxable in both 401K accounts and mutual fund accounts on top of the capital gains tax associate with mutual funds. couple that with the fact that people earn more money as they age not less which means more taxes in retirement than the savings they got in the 20’s, 30’s and 40’s. now I’m not apposed to both of these. however I think its responsible to spell out the truth on both of those vehicles(pre-tax retirement accounts and MF’s). and taxes MUST always be discussed with any financial plan. There is no other vehicle on the market with the guarantees that WL policies have. in the end it all will depend on what’s in the best interest of the client.
Hi Matt,
I agree. Enormous fees in Mutual Funds! I personally invest almost exclusively in ETF’s where the expense ratios are next to zero. (This is NOT investment advice. Just my own investment preferences.)
Fantastic article. I’m a 33 year old male in fairly good health with 2 young children. I stopped by to gain a better understanding of the differences between types of insurances/coverage and which best fits my current situation. I was already leaning towards term insurance and your article did an amazing with its thorough explanation of why term insurance is best for my family needs.
Thanks so much for helping with my decision!
God bless,
Jim
Hi Tom,
Here’s a solid recommendation. Call us and let us help you buy a policy. It’s quick and easy, and our agents will get you the best rate from our 30+ companies we have access to. Sorry for the sales pitch, but THAT IS 100% the way to go. 🙂
We’re at 888-603-2876. Thanks.
Hello RR,
By 25M, I assume you mean 25 years old, male? Or you want $25 million? Does RR stand for Richie Rich? ha ha. Anyway, even though you see I’m largely a proponent of term, it’s hard to give you advice on what type to buy based on that limited amount of info.
You’ll probably want term, but you should check with our agents to make sure. 888-603-2876.
Hi Chris,
Very informative and researched blog! I think I already know the answer but would love your quick take on this:
25M, married, with generally good health. No kids or mortgage today but could have both in a year. Considering a $500K policy. Thanks!
I’m a 58 year old man; good health. Looking to purchase term insurance…just mind boggled on all the hype/ ads out there. Can you recommend a good solid company(s) to go with? Insurance policy at around 250K. Thanks Tom
Hello, Dexter, 55-year-old male married no kids. I currently have 50,000 whole life csv $ 8,300. I have 2 options I am considering. Option 1) take the csv of the whole life and roll it into Guaranteed Universal life forever at about $ 410 per month, 400,000 coverage till 77, 300,000 to 85 and 200,000 thereafter. While the insurance is guaranteed I suspect by the time I am 80 csv will be zero. Option 2) keep the 50,000 whole life add 90,000 whole life for a total whole life cost of $ 248 per month. Add 250,000 of term $ 191 if preferred or 209 depending on how I come in. So the total monthly cost of both whole life and term is either $ 439 or $ 457. I know costs seem steep but can make payments. Other details just retired small pension$ 2380 after tax wife 10 years younger making $55 K per year. Going back to school for 2.5 years plan to work 10-12 years more making about $ 55-65 k per year. Mortgage 1650 per month 15 years left no other debt. Total inv and other retirement savings plans 175 k plus
Hey David,
Thank you for your comment. Option 3) Call us to discuss at 888-603-2876. We can probably do better than any of those options.
Hello, I’m 39 y/o male with the type 2 diabetes, I have UL life insurance for 75k, should I consider to buy term life insurance in addition to my UL. I have only one kid.
I am a 64 year old retired teacher. When I retired I put my husband as beneficiary for 100% of my pension after my death. This decision droped my monthly annuity. We are considering dropping that option and taking out term or whole life insurance on me instead. We have two grown children that we would like to leave a little too, as well.
Thoughts???
I have some liquid assets (more than 1MM+). I want to protect those assets. One of the agent pitched me premium financing policy for $10MM. Its called “Pacific Life Discovery Xelerator Indexed UL”. This requires a collateral of $250K and annual premium is ~$386K per year which is financed by the bank. Interest per year on this premium is almost $17K per year. The policy invests money in S&P 500.
Just wondering if you can share your viewpoint or any video about premium financing life insurance policies.
Hello Kim
That’s a fascinating topic. Unfortunately I’ve never dove into the world of premium financing so can’t offer any good advice here. That’s a hefty premium, though. Be sure to ask the agent for worst case scenarios if the policy does not perform as illustrated.
Hi. I currently have a $100,000 term policy and $25,000 whole life. I’m 22 with 2 children. Confused on what I should do/change.
I’m a 42 year old single mom. My daughter is 5 and I’ve just started looking for life insurance. If I get a 30 year term what happens after 30 years? Are my payments going to go through the roof or will I lose all that money invested if I live past 30 years?
Hi Candis, Yeah, we aren’t lovers of the whole life plans for most folks. However, if you have cash value, we can always roll it into a new policy and you can invest elsewhere as you see fit. Drop me a direct email if I can be of service – thanks for reaching out!
Contrary to the above comment, I found your information clear and quite understandable. I will be contacting you regarding my situation. I am 57, no considerable debt, married, with 2 adult children. I am well insured with level premium term coverage through age 67, and well invested, at least in my own opinion…on schedule for an “adequate” retirement. My wife seems to think it necessary to out into place a somewhat substantial death benefit in place beyond that. of course an insurance salesman wants to sell/convert to permanent coverage, so no objective help there…
This whole start to the article was the most confusing, off track, out of focus pain in the you know what. You are all over the place. Going elsewhere.
Hello Christina,
In most cases, term policies renew in year 31 at a much higher rate. (some companies lower the death benefit and keep the payment the same.) You can also buy policies with return of premium. Lots of options. Give us a call at 888-603-2876 to see which is best for you. Thanks!
Hello GV,
Sounds good. We hope to speak to you soon! I would stay away from that agent who is telling you that you need permanent coverage!
I am truly considering cancelling my whole life plans for my children. I mean the cash value was really the draw for college, but i have a feeling my money will be better invested elsewhere. I’ll do my research before i get rid of them so the money will be immediately allocated.
Hi is it Term life pays back my money after the term I’m 52 Female, have tyroid problem. Which one is good for me. I need to have some kind of money after some years which I paid. Are you in same Dave’s group???
I’m sorry you didn’t find our article useful. I hope you find what you are looking for! Best wishes
Hello Alexis,
It really depends on your income, goals, other investments, etc. Please feel free to call us at 888-603-2876 to discuss.
Hello Noelle.
I am 63, married, and still working. I’ve decided to purchase a $50,000 term insurance policy for myself. My husband is already insured, but I’m not on his policy. Should I purchase insurance for myself alone, or should we have a joint policy. Im a nonsmoker, in good health, my husband has quit smoking with high blood pressure, but he is on medication.
I am 65 female with good health. Should I consider whole life, which provides death benefits and growth for me to leave these benefits to my children? Am I too old to consider whole life? Should I consider annuity instead.
Thanks!
Hi Betty, I wouldn’t recommend whole life per se, but I would certainly suggest you get a Guaranteed Universal Life policy which will last as long as you live. Send me an email if I can be of service…
Hi Mari,
We’re not in Dave’s group. We’re independent agents. Some term policies do pay money back at the end of the term. They’re called “return of premium” policies. Give us a call at 888-603-2876 and we’ll help explain.
Hi,
I am a 27 year old female, in good health, that purchased a $300,000 20 year whole life insurance; and I pay $330 a month. Did I make a wise financial decision? Would term life insurance be a better decision long term? Should I have both?
Hello Noelle,
We don’t love the idea of a whole life policy for you, no. You lose your control over your own investments, and may, or may not, wind up with the results you expect…that’s a scary proposition and you are spending a fortune in that quest! A female of your age, in Preferred health, n/s would get a $300k/30 year term policy for around $22/month. And, if you wouldn’t feel comfortable without a policy that would cover you for the rest of your life, then $300k to age 120 should run about $100/month, still leaving you $230/month to spend on whatever kind of investment YOU choose…so, I am going to take the liberty of having one of our top agents contact you in case you want more information about your options…Christine Orris will send you an email to see if she can be of service!
Term is always the right answer.
I am helping my 80yr. Old mother with type 2 diabetes which she has controlled for yrs. no other medical issues. Has some debt 8yrs too pay off her home. Will term insurance be good for her?
I’m female 58;a bout w/breast cancer in 2014; should I keep my $10,000 whole life $30 monthly or if qualified change to 25,000 10 yr term $60 monthly w/prime rica?
Hi Rosalie – with breast cancer, the details are all-important…however most carriers are going to want 2, 3 or 4 years after end of treatment before they will consider coverage. If you want to, I will run a trial offer with our more aggressive carriers to see if any would be willing to offer you coverage at this time. Just drop me an email and we can discuss details. Thank you!